G&S vote of confidence meeting has jeopardised this season
flyingV 7:53 Sun Aug 31

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Three games in and we've already got a taste of just what the "new" West Ham have in store for us this season.

I'm no fan of Allardyce, and I can't wait for his inevitable replacement which will hopefully come sooner rather than later.

But putting that aside, for me the disarray we saw on the pitch yesterday can also be attributed to our owners' bizarre public vote of confidence meeting at the end of last years campaign.

What the fuck was the point of that little charade? The way it was presented in the media was that Allardyce was certain to lose his job and this board was rife with posts speculating on who our new manager would be. Instead of putting this to bed straight away, these rumours were left to grow momentum within a ridiculous one week "decision period" which culminated in what seemed to be a U-turn whereby BFS was allowed to keep his position on the basis that he provide more entertainment for the fans.

This was stupid for a number of reasons. Firstly, you now had an even angrier support who almost unanimously wanted rid of the manager and had allowed excitement to build over the potential replacement. Had a statement been put out clarifying the purpose of the meeting then this could have been quashed early on.
Instead, what we had was fans that had started to envisage life beyond the Dudley Dinosaur and had had it stolen from them. Rightly or wrongly, you now had fans feeling cheated at the prospect of putting up with another year of shit and the net result of that is an even more poisonous atmosphere at home games with 30,000 people telling the manager to "Fuck Off"

Secondly, expecting Allardyce to adapt his style is another delusion that surely even G&S can see is destined for failure? This is a man whose footballing principles are well-known and haven't wavered throughout his time in the game. I loathe his tactics but the reason people hire the man is because these tactics have brought him a relative level of "success" (although his definition is probably different from mine...) To expect him to surrender these as an ultimatum to remain in his job is ludicrous - when you hire BFS, you buy into what he gives you. IF you don't like it, you get someone else in. Also, you've now given the man the ultimate excuse for when things go wrong. This is the man who never takes responsibilities for his teams failures on the pitch and you've given him the perfect get-out clause if it all goes tits up this season.

The timing of that whole circus last year, not to mention the way G&S went about it, set us up in the worst way possible for this coming season. A crowd that hate the manager more than ever, a manager forced to work outside his comfort zone who knows he has bosses that have considered replacing him, and a man in a win-win situation who knows that G&S want to avoid paying him compensation but also has a ready-made excuse for when it all goes wrong.

Look at Southampton yesterday. A starting 11 who I would have trouble naming (I've got penners for that) but were well drilled, clever and took us apart. In contrast, we have a confused squad who reach the final third but are scared of doing anything dynamic going forward. We will string a few slow sideways passes together before Adrian gets it back.

The owners bottled it. I hope we don't have another disaster on our hands come December.

Lets hope I'm wrong and we turn this around, this is one of the strongest squads on paper we've had in years. But I'm not holding my breath.

Anyway - SPLAT, you cunt, etc etc... bring it on.

Willtell 7:57 Sun Aug 31
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All of that based on assumptions that what was reported as having happened at a board meeting was actually correct. I wonder how many journalists were actually there...?

Sxboy_66 8:05 Sun Aug 31
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"A starting 11 who I would have trouble naming (I've got penners for that) but were well drilled, clever and took us apart."

But mainly because, by their manager's admission, they knew EXACTLY how we would play. That makes life very easy for any opposing team.

That, in a nutshell, is the trouble with West Ham under BFS.

claretandbluedagger 8:12 Sun Aug 31
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I don't think the meeting had most fans thinking he was going to be sacked. There were a couple of threads posted on here, mostly followed by people saying that he wouldn't go.

the exile 8:13 Sun Aug 31
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Excellent post, flyingV. Totally agree.

Willtell - we know this is true because BFS alluded to it during the NZ tour.

penners28 8:19 Sun Aug 31
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I'm outraged

oneteaminlondon 8:29 Sun Aug 31
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Totally agree with OP.

13 Brentford Rd 8:43 Sun Aug 31
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Agree with V and thought and.said same at the time.
They basically undermined him in public which was plain foolish.
Also it was embarassing that they made such a halabaloo about entertaining football when other clubs just get on with it.

camel-with-3-humps 8:47 Sun Aug 31
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Agreed. Totally dumb from G&S. But what can you do?

WHU(Exeter) 8:50 Sun Aug 31
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"What the fuck was the point of that little charade"?

Egos.

dicksie3 8:53 Sun Aug 31
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Cunt's gotta go...

Shit football...

Stinks of arrogance and fish heads...

Oh, and we ain't even on the fucking credits any more...

WHU(Exeter) 8:55 Sun Aug 31
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"What can you do"?

Quite simple really, either back the bloke that THEY continue to employ, not just financially, which tbf they have done, but don't attempt to undermine OR, get rid and get someone else in.

Oi wot u looking at? 9:09 Sun Aug 31
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Good post. Trouble is there are still 35000 bums on seats. Maybe instead of bubbles at the start " fuck of Sam Allardyce" should ring out loud and clear. Also G & S probably aint got a plan B.

oneteaminlondon 9:11 Sun Aug 31
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The board should have been decisive and sacked him end of last season. They don't want him but hesitated over the cost of giving him the boot. We now have the situation where SA is happy just to see his contract out and say told you so. Huge fuck up.

David E 9:11 Sun Aug 31
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Very good original post - it beggars belief how they can back the man so strongly financially but alienate both him and the supporters with their behind the scenes antics.

This squad, by our standards, is excellent and should not be in any danger of relegation. But it feels like this season will be a long, long struggle.

Rusta 9:11 Sun Aug 31
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The whole we'll just tell the fans we have told him to play more entertaining football was a bit insulting to any fan with half a brain

kirok1 9:13 Sun Aug 31
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As far as December goes, well. Too talented to go down? Seem familiar?
Any team with a bad enough manager will likely go down. We have Allardyce and a team that everyone knows how it will play every time they take the pitch. Before, during and prior to the return fixture.
He will not change. So we will go down unless they change manager.
Nothing is certain in life but I'd lay good odds on us being bottom 3 at Christmas, even with other teams being piss poor.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 9:14 Sun Aug 31
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David E 9:11 Sun Aug 31

'Very good original post'

I'm not sure original is the word. There are five other Allardyce out threads on the front page alone.

David E 9:20 Sun Aug 31
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I meant the post that started the thread, as opposed to the originality of its subject matter.

chelmsfordhammer 9:24 Sun Aug 31
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Kirok, I'll take your odds on us being in the bottom 3 at xmas, and if your offering odds on us staying up I'll take you up on that as well. Despite the turgid display yesterday , I'm still confident we won't be getting relegated even if allardyce stays.

flyingV 9:31 Sun Aug 31
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero 9:14 Sun Aug 31
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This wasn't an Allardyce Out thread, Surface.

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